Saturday, May 30, 2020

I guess it's time to talk about SonicFox.

I have gotten a lot of messages about Skullgirls adding a SonicFox NPC, so it's time to say some things.  This is me speaking as myself, not a representative of Lab Zero or whatever else.


(Nice bait, but if you can unironically use the phrase "promoting mental illness", you've been on 4chan too long.)


Why SonicFox?


SonicFox's NPC was included as a way of honoring their multiple selfless contributions to Skullgirls, and more importantly to the Skullgirls community, over nearly a decade.  There is no other reason.

Since people want more justification:

SonicFox is a huge Skullgirls fan, but the Indiegogo and the followup where we offered extra color slots for sale happened before they knew about the game.  As a result, they have been asking to pay for an NPC for literally years.  The NPC was created at their request, it wasn't Skullgirls searching for a well-known figure to boost the visibility of the game.

SonicFox has spent hundreds of hours teaching beginners how to play, offering intermediate players advice for how to level up, making tutorial videos, and introducing new players to Skullgirls.  They've supported the game as much as it's possible for any single person to support it.  (Which is alllllllmost as much as dapurplesharpie.  :^)

Duckator was given an in-game NPC after winning two Skullgirls-at-Evo tournaments, in recognition of demonstrated skill and dedication.  SonicFox has won many high-profile tournaments, and deserves recognition on that basis alone.

In the past years, SonicFox has given out a huge number of gift copies of Skullgirls and gift subscriptions in the chats of Twitch streamers that play Skullgirls.  They've definitely done as much to financially support Skullgirls as any other NPC-tier backer.

I'll say this again:  SonicFox's NPC was included as a way of honoring their multiple contributions to Skullgirls, and more importantly to the Skullgirls community, over nearly a decade.  There is no other reason.  I make no judgment of their personal values.


    What about dekillsage?  He deserves one too!


    dekillsage has also won hella tournaments, given many hundreds of hours of help to the community, and been a huge supporter of the game since the very first release.  He deserves at least as much recognition as SonicFox...however, what we do is up to the individual.  Sage was consulted about the level of inclusion he wanted, and what ended up in the game is his preference - which is all that matters.


    Why now?


    Because the Mysterious Character for Skullgirls Mobile (hmmm!) has to be built in the Skullgirls engine to function in SG Mobile, I had to get the Skullgirls engine to work again.  Actually being able to build the engine and assets again (and end up with a functional game!) was the impetus for everything - netcode improvements, full HD remaster, etc.  And we thought, we're porting a stage from SG Mobile so we have to figure out how to build the stages anyway, why not take the time to do something that should be done?  So we did.


    Why Class Notes?  Is Mrs. Victoria gone?


    Mrs. Victoria is not gone.

    There was already an alternate "DeFoxSchool" version of Class Notes which appeared 50% of the time.  Since DeFoxSchool is now defunct (;_;)7 the alternate version has been revised to include SonicFox and a new chalkboard.  As with any stage that has different texture sets, you can go back to Change Stage and pick the stage again and it will be the other version.



    I am bothered by SonicFox's inclusion, what can I do?


    For the reasons outlined above, SonicFox deserves their NPC, and no amount of hate from any source can erase their years of very public, positive contributions to the Skullgirls community.

    However, I very specifically left their NPC in a part of the game's data that the game ignores modifications to.  There is a user-created mod on the Steam forums which removes SonicFox from the game, so anyone who wants to can use that.  Or you can just not pick the stage, which is much easier.

    Again - note that I could have prevented this mod from working by putting that file in a spot the game would check, but I didn't.  So please spare Skullgirls and SonicFox any misplaced ire, thanks.


    No dice, I still want a refund!  What can I do?


    If none of this appeased your righteous indignation and you feel you have a legitimate grievance, please DM me on Twitter!  (Don't @ me, I can't wade through piles of those.)  If you can provide proof of Steam ownership and purchase price, as well as your grievance*, I will gladly provide you a refund from my own money**.  The stage was changed to honor two people who very much deserve it, so it will not be adjusted - but the aim was not to specifically offend anyone.

    * Your identity will not be made public, if you are concerned, but I mean it when I say "provide proof".  Homophobic, racist, or otherwise discriminatory or internet-troll complaints will be ignored.  Be civil.  You have been warned.

    ** Up to a point, I can't personally afford like $5000 of refunds.  So let's see what happens.  :^P

    25 comments:

    1. "Mrs. Victoria is not gone."

      She clearly is. You could have just put Sonicfox to the side but nope. Gotta remove the "problematic" elements right? But please, keep playing the esports card in your game that spread due to fanservice word of mouth (great work Zone-tan). But as you said when you censored out those panty shots, “standards have evolved” i.e. "Thanks for the money weebs, we don't need you anymore so get lost".

      The fact that this was all done for some whale milking mobile game is just more salt in the wound.

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      1. Technical limitations, they can't add things, only swap them. Class Notes had two variations with the same NPC, so it was easiest to take one variant and swap her out while still keeping her on the other.

        So no, they can't "just put Sonicfox to the side".

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      2. jesus christ dude get a clue

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      3. t. hasn't played the game

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      4. I'll leave your post up since this specific part is something I can address:

        >You could have just put Sonicfox to the side but nope.

        There was no way to do that, I can't edit the levels, only swap textures. There is one animated texture placed in that level, and it's where Mrs. Victoria is and is exactly her size. There's no way for me to put anything animated anywhere else.

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      5. "I can't edit the levels"

        This is YOUR "Z-engine" that you yourself programmed. Telling me you can't do something with your own engine, how gullible do you think I am? The people above are Cucks so they'll eat that up. I'm not.

        At best, you are telling me you are lazy and are outright lying to hide this fact. At worse, I can expect Victoria to disappear with the coming "updates". Wouldn't be the first time this has happened. Now to see if this gets deleted just like with Crystar's Censorship.

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      6. Want me to own it? Fine.

        I'm doing a bunch of unpaid work, and the unpaid work I AM willing to do is swap a texture to honor someone who has helped the game and the community in many ways, and figure out how to repack the levels from scratch.

        I am NOT willing to take my time to reverse engineer a level file format from eight years ago, find the correct program to edit it, learn how to do use Maya or whatever (I'm a programmer), add a new animated texture, and create a variant of a level myself simply to appease someone who thinks "cuck" is an appropriate word to use in normal conversation. All unpaid.

        I'm not lazy - I disagree with your opinion and the horrible way in which you present it, and I'm able to decide what I spend my own time on. If you actually think Mrs. Victoria is going to disappear, then, my friend, you don't know me at ALL. Your post is still here, isn't it? :^)

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    2. @BrokenM Wow even your mentality is broken

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    3. i have to tell you recovered a little my respect, first of all, I hate sonicfox and have no doubt that I would download the mod / guide to remove it (many are agree with me in that it is the most popular post) but I am against the censorship if you want example someone unpopular: put the degenerate of shadbase you can put as you can to the degenerate sonicfox it's your game you can put whatever you want

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      1. and I agree on something with BrokenM say "ican't edit the levels" is a limitation that you set yourself .
        improving your "program" is what a programmer does
        don't take it like do it take mora like you can do it

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      2. The engine part I could do, it would just take a long time. The ART part of editing a level I can't do, and it would take a lot longer than any other thing I've done to this game.
        I offered the NPC because adding it was within my ability, so I was willing to do it in my free time. The rest of that, I'm not.

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      3. like i say before is your game you decide
        maybe you change your mind in the sequel: skullgirls 2 deadly airport (j/k) and thanks for answering

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      4. HOLY SHIT Annie Announced!!! i never
        I never thought to see that is beautiful main beo and annie

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    4. Normally I would agree with you.
      Normally, I think the same way about them as you would.
      Normally I think ZeRo’s commentary is the perfect way to describe the drama.
      (look him up on YouTube; it’s worth your time, I promise!)

      It’s the “1312” and “white guild” comments of Mr.Fox that really rub me the wrong way.
      My live was saved by the police once, and I have heard a lot from ex-police officers that became teachers in my high school. I’ve seen and heard what happened to Captain David Dorn. I know he wasn’t the first nor the last to die like that, but it is the proof that most of those “peaceful protests” are not what the claim to be.

      I will not mod Mr.Fox out of the game for now, but I do beg for you to stop them.
      Twitter poised them. Poised them to be a hate fuelled monster.

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    6. Thank you Mike Z for everything you've done for SG! <3

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    7. I don't hate furry, i don't like this change simply it's not remotly fit the origin art style of Skullgirls.
      And Mrs. Victoria is gone by default is such a mistake
      Don't be jk rowling, ruining your work becuase you are able to.

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    8. my man's a programmer but can't even think of a way to add a sprite in the background of a stage, I know this game is old but it's all your fault if you haven't updated your engine over the years to allow for such thing

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    9. The worst part was when the whole so-called "SG community" threw you under the bus. And they will always forgive some random weirdo in a clownish costume because "tutorials", unlike the programer because "he's a scumbag". The same weirdo certainly showed you some gratitude, eh?

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      1. Maj definitely wouldn't talk like this, but I'll leave this here in case you feel like being whoever you really are instead.
        There's no need for such bitterness.

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      2. There are several Majs out there. You should know.
        You better tell that to the "SG community". There's no need for such bitterness, sure, but it will remain within that "community". So on, and so forth.

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      3. I meant your bitterness toward them. People made choices, it's up to them to live with the results. I don't have any desire to engage.

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      4. Hey Mike, what have you been doing nowadays

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